I was recently connected to Colleen Thomas of the podcast Shame Pinata because we both have a passion for creative rituals to honor life’s big passages. I shared my story about co-creating my own “UnBaby Shower,” and she resonated so much with it that she asked if I would be on her podcast. 

Our wonderful conversation can be heard here. This then lead to KPFA Radio picking up the interview and airing it for International Women’s Day.

I’m so grateful both to Colleen for her wonderful interview and resonating so deeply with my ritual practice, as well as to KPFA Radio, for seeing and understanding that choosing to be child-free is a part of a woman’s story and should be valued and celebrated just as much as choosing to be a parent.